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new pictures look amazing
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* new pictures look amazing
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*
yesterday a whole bunch more walls went up
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* yesterday a whole bunch more walls went up
60-80% framed
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* 60-80% framed
everything is plumbed
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* everything is plumbed
wash sink stubs, hot and cold water, drain and everything for the wash sink
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* wash sink stubs, hot and cold water, drain and everything for the wash sink
craft area, too
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* craft area, too
dishwasher, kitchen sink
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* dishwasher, kitchen sink
changed the toilet plumbing; it's copper instead of flex line
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* changed the toilet plumbing; it's copper instead of flex line
plumbed for the bathroom sink as well as for a mop sink, where we had the shower drawn on the sketch
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* plumbed for the bathroom sink as well as for a mop sink, where we had the shower drawn on the sketch
not shaped for a shower, not sure of their intention; there's a drain and hot and cold in that corner for however we want to make use of it
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* not shaped for a shower, not sure of their intention; there's a drain and hot and cold in that corner for however we want to make use of it
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*
electrical
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* electrical
440 panel
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* 440 panel
3-phase panel is up, transformer is where it's going to be
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* 3-phase panel is up, transformer is where it's going to be
main panels are on the walls
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* main panels are on the walls
have trunk of cable coming out of one to transformer
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* have trunk of cable coming out of one to transformer
panels are not where we'd negotiated; will need to update the cable length spreadsheet
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* panels are not where we'd negotiated; will need to update the cable length spreadsheet
velzy won't be on, but we're going to need to figure out what we're going to do for subpanels
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* velzy won't be on, but we're going to need to figure out what we're going to do for subpanels
pictures of labels are in cable pullers, so we know what breakers we can get
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* pictures of labels are in cable pullers, so we know what breakers we can get
image we want to still do sub-panel in several spots to make wiring easier
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* image we want to still do sub-panel in several spots to make wiring easier
will need matching to what they're providing
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* will need matching to what they're providing
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*
walking around is really awesome; it's going to be huge; shops are going to be massive
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* walking around is really awesome; it's going to be huge; shops are going to be massive
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*
are they hanging drywall?
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* are they hanging drywall?
not until we tell them to or we do it ourselves
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* not until we tell them to or we do it ourselves
not hanging until we have electrical finished
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* not hanging until we have electrical finished
might want to go in ourselves and hang one side ourselves
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* might want to go in ourselves and hang one side ourselves
then it's still accessible
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* then it's still accessible
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*
blundar doesn't mind going down and pulling cable
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* blundar doesn't mind going down and pulling cable
velzy reached out for quotes for electrical material
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* velzy reached out for quotes for electrical material
haven't gotten quotes yet
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* haven't gotten quotes yet
richard's is the cheapest  
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* richard's is the cheapest  
velzy did reach out to them for a quote
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* velzy did reach out to them for a quote
blundar gave velzy names for electricians for labor help
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* blundar gave velzy names for electricians for labor help
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*
we're going to want to reach out to a few electricians and get quotes to have them do some or all of the work for us
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* we're going to want to reach out to a few electricians and get quotes to have them do some or all of the work for us
blundar: might want to prioritize work; like lights
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* blundar: might want to prioritize work; like lights
kevin: there are lights, they don't make sense for our floor plan, so we'll need to reconfigure them but they're bright
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* kevin: there are lights, they don't make sense for our floor plan, so we'll need to reconfigure them but they're bright
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*
we need electrical material on hand
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* we need electrical material on hand
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*
blundar: do we have data wiring; cat5 or cat6
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* blundar: do we have data wiring; cat5 or cat6
drew: i need to work with Kevin this week or next to hammer out the lengths we need; i have some developments
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* drew: i need to work with Kevin this week or next to hammer out the lengths we need; i have some developments
i talked to 2701's IT this week; some things have changed
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* i talked to 2701's IT this week; some things have changed
blundar: i have 600-800 foot of CAT5E or CAT6 from projects
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* blundar: i have 600-800 foot of CAT5E or CAT6 from projects
i have a decent number of light switches and outlets; our house is wired at this point, won't use it
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* i have a decent number of light switches and outlets; our house is wired at this point, won't use it
i'll take inventory and bring it down
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* i'll take inventory and bring it down
kevin: we've got a good count of what we'll need, so if you let us know what you have we can use it
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* kevin: we've got a good count of what we'll need, so if you let us know what you have we can use it
blundar: i'll try to get it done over the weekend
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* blundar: i'll try to get it done over the weekend
kevin: quotes this week to decide who we're going with
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* kevin: quotes this week to decide who we're going with
blundar: it might make sense to get some supplies ASAP; as soon as walls are up if electric prevents the drywall going up we should get started on it
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* blundar: it might make sense to get some supplies ASAP; as soon as walls are up if electric prevents the drywall going up we should get started on it
kevin: first thing the subpanels need to go in. velzy's RFQ didn't include subpanels
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* kevin: first thing the subpanels need to go in. velzy's RFQ didn't include subpanels
blundar: could start with the bathroom
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* blundar: could start with the bathroom
kevin: bathroom circuits are planned out; it's framed and plumbed and ready for electrical
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* kevin: bathroom circuits are planned out; it's framed and plumbed and ready for electrical
blundar: i have 30-100 feet of 12-2 or 14-2 laying around;
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* blundar: i have 30-100 feet of 12-2 or 14-2 laying around;
kevin: that's only so helpful; most of our runs are around 100'
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* kevin: that's only so helpful; most of our runs are around 100'
bring it in
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* bring it in
we were planning on doing everything in MC
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* we were planning on doing everything in MC
blundar: no
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* blundar: no
kevin: we'll pass
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* kevin: we'll pass
recepticles and switches we can make use of
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* recepticles and switches we can make use of
+
*
kevin: landlord is covering wall build out
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* kevin: landlord is covering wall build out
blundar: what's his poison?
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* blundar: what's his poison?
kevin: rent checks
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* kevin: rent checks
blundar: poison never hurts
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* blundar: poison never hurts
kevin: he wants to hang out when we have a party
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* kevin: he wants to hang out when we have a party
lisa: invite him when we have our open party
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* lisa: invite him when we have our open party
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*
kevin: shower drain?
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* kevin: shower drain?
plumber quoted $2500 to bore through the floor and have a shower drain
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* plumber quoted $2500 to bore through the floor and have a shower drain
didn't budget that
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* didn't budget that
can be added later
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* can be added later
i think we should do it later
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* i think we should do it later
schwinn: there's a shower on the first floor
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* schwinn: there's a shower on the first floor
blundar: that's kind of a bonus; and having access on the first floor
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* blundar: that's kind of a bonus; and having access on the first floor
schwinn: $2500 is almost the whole kitchen budget
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* schwinn: $2500 is almost the whole kitchen budget
to throw a hole in the floor
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* to throw a hole in the floor
drew: we can keep it clear and add it later
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* drew: we can keep it clear and add it later
kevin: can put a mop sink in and pull it out later
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* kevin: can put a mop sink in and pull it out later
schwinn: is there going to be a mop sink outside?
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* schwinn: is there going to be a mop sink outside?
kevin: a mess sink; like a utility sink
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* kevin: a mess sink; like a utility sink
schwinn: i'm cold on it
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* schwinn: i'm cold on it
blundar: if we can postpone, that's adequate
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* blundar: if we can postpone, that's adequate
chris: a 6" diamond drill is $40 a day to rent
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* chris: a 6" diamond drill is $40 a day to rent
the drill itself is $150-160 a day
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* the drill itself is $150-160 a day
if we wanted to fuck around with doing it, for $500 we could drill the hole easily
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* if we wanted to fuck around with doing it, for $500 we could drill the hole easily
we could do that if we wanted to mess with it
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* we could do that if we wanted to mess with it
doesn't have to happen now
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* doesn't have to happen now
tim: punt! punt! punt! punt!
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* tim: punt! punt! punt! punt!
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*
kevin: we'll have other things to put up for vote
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* kevin: we'll have other things to put up for vote
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*
kevin: kitchen?
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* kevin: kitchen?
it's ready for stuff to start buying there
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* it's ready for stuff to start buying there
if you find something to get, that needs to happen now
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* if you find something to get, that needs to happen now
schwinn: my attitude about the urgency of it being open when we open has shifted; it might be a while before we need it
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* schwinn: my attitude about the urgency of it being open when we open has shifted; it might be a while before we need it
blundar: having a refrigeration unit, and sink, and something to generate heat would be nice
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* blundar: having a refrigeration unit, and sink, and something to generate heat would be nice
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*
kevin: we're taking the stove and fridge from here
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* kevin: we're taking the stove and fridge from here
schwinn: it might not be spit-polished by then
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* schwinn: it might not be spit-polished by then
we'd talked about the kitchen being there on day one
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* we'd talked about the kitchen being there on day one
i've abandoned that notion
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* i've abandoned that notion
i don't know what day 1 actually is
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* i don't know what day 1 actually is
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*
kevin: we have to just go with the flow on how this goes
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* kevin: we have to just go with the flow on how this goes
schwinn: it's cool that we have other people to do this ourselves
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* schwinn: it's cool that we have other people to do this ourselves
we can figure out how to do the rest safely on our own terms
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* we can figure out how to do the rest safely on our own terms
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*
kevin: i'm still worried about the electrical in that respect
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* kevin: i'm still worried about the electrical in that respect
schwinn: yeah, but you're not going to be thinking about the walls
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* schwinn: yeah, but you're not going to be thinking about the walls
you were really strung out 2 months ago about who's doing what when
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* you were really strung out 2 months ago about who's doing what when
now it's answered itself
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* now it's answered itself
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*
burdick: i like that we can keep social distancing in our new space; functional work space
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* burdick: i like that we can keep social distancing in our new space; functional work space
chris: one thing i'm looking at is that the more outside and fresh air the better
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* chris: one thing i'm looking at is that the more outside and fresh air the better
i'm pushing to basically not open for customers indoors since we own a parking lot and patio
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* i'm pushing to basically not open for customers indoors since we own a parking lot and patio
the more that we can open windows, the better
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* the more that we can open windows, the better
the less that we're recycling through HVAC, the better
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* the less that we're recycling through HVAC, the better
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*
dust collection blowing out the side of the building; and ventilation doing that would probably be an ASAP priority
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* dust collection blowing out the side of the building; and ventilation doing that would probably be an ASAP priority
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*
schwinn: i'll look into windows
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* schwinn: i'll look into windows
kevin: 2701 will install windows
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* kevin: 2701 will install windows
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*
drew: we had a chat with 2701's it person (velzy and drew)
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* drew: we had a chat with 2701's it person (velzy and drew)
they are prepared to provide internet, firewall, and wireless, and an ethernet handoff to anything we want
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* they are prepared to provide internet, firewall, and wireless, and an ethernet handoff to anything we want
my BOM got shorter by not needing to buy a router
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* my BOM got shorter by not needing to buy a router
he's going to allow incoming VPN, azure connections, etc.
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* he's going to allow incoming VPN, azure connections, etc.
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*
he uses new access points; he'll be covering the space with wireless APs
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* he uses new access points; he'll be covering the space with wireless APs
he's going to give each tenant a vlan and independent firewall rules
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* he's going to give each tenant a vlan and independent firewall rules
thanks to some of us lifting some of our infrastructure into the cloud, we can bring that in easily
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* thanks to some of us lifting some of our infrastructure into the cloud, we can bring that in easily
+
*
chris: what's the bandwidth coming into the building?
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* chris: what's the bandwidth coming into the building?
drew: it's through CBTS; it's not fioptics
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* drew: it's through CBTS; it's not fioptics
metro ethernet
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* metro ethernet
+
*
kevin: what do we want to do ourselves?
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* kevin: what do we want to do ourselves?
what are we taking over to the building?
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* what are we taking over to the building?
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*
blundar and kevin bringing big table over and leaving blundar's truck there
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* blundar and kevin bringing big table over and leaving blundar's truck there
lisa: if you take a table, take 2 chairs or stools or something?
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* lisa: if you take a table, take 2 chairs or stools or something?
schwinn: i second that
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* schwinn: i second that
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*
schwinn: my agenda doesn't interfere; i'm going to clean windows and build sound baffles which hang from the ceiling
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* schwinn: my agenda doesn't interfere; i'm going to clean windows and build sound baffles which hang from the ceiling
chris: speaking of the big tables;
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* chris: speaking of the big tables;
is that cart still there with all the chairs? we can take that cart and one or two tables from the lounge
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* is that cart still there with all the chairs? we can take that cart and one or two tables from the lounge
+
*
kevin: i'm also interested in taking a couch and recliner for the new lounge
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* kevin: i'm also interested in taking a couch and recliner for the new lounge
we can start building out a comofy spot
+
* we can start building out a comofy spot
+
*
schwinn: when will we have access to wifi?
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* schwinn: when will we have access to wifi?
drew: he'll let me know when they come in; we'd have an ethernet handoff for our switches and APs
+
* drew: he'll let me know when they come in; we'd have an ethernet handoff for our switches and APs
+
*
schwinn: my work does not care if i cowork; my work from home brings a lot of liberty; as soon as i have my laptop set up there i can work from there
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* schwinn: my work does not care if i cowork; my work from home brings a lot of liberty; as soon as i have my laptop set up there i can work from there
drew: i'll have him add a configuration for us and pass that along
+
* drew: i'll have him add a configuration for us and pass that along
+
*
jill: i can help cleaning windows
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* jill: i can help cleaning windows
schwinn: there's like 18 of them
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* schwinn: there's like 18 of them
jill: since i'm not doing school, i can't stand being in the house all day
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* jill: since i'm not doing school, i can't stand being in the house all day
schwinn: i'll take the screens out for pressure washing
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* schwinn: i'll take the screens out for pressure washing
+
*
kevin: if you have a list of things to move over post it in slack
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* kevin: if you have a list of things to move over post it in slack
wall builders  won't be doing any more work until tuesday
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* wall builders  won't be doing any more work until tuesday
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*
drew: can we get together to set up for ethernet runs?
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* drew: can we get together to set up for ethernet runs?
+
*
schwinn: sounds like we're moving the hive
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* schwinn: sounds like we're moving the hive
blundar: it's real!
+
* blundar: it's real!
+
*
drew: i'll have to give you locations and switch stacks and drops  
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* drew: i'll have to give you locations and switch stacks and drops  
kevin: that's what i did with the sub panels for the electric
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* kevin: that's w
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hat i did with the sub panels for the electric

Revision as of 07:47, 22 May 2020

Move Meetings
Previous: May 14th, 2020 Meeting Procedure Next: May 28th, 2020

Agenda

Build Progress

  • Material Delivered
  • Bathroom/kitchen Framed
  • Landlord is covering wall build labor to compensate for delays
  • Shower drain
    • Would cost about $2500 as it needs to core drill through to the floor below.
    • There is a shower on the first floor that we can use
    • Should we have the drain installed or use the shower on the 1st?

What's Next?

  • Need to take our tools over?
  • What work do we want to do ourselves?

Minutes

  • new pictures look amazing
  • yesterday a whole bunch more walls went up
  • 60-80% framed
  • everything is plumbed
  • wash sink stubs, hot and cold water, drain and everything for the wash sink
  • craft area, too
  • dishwasher, kitchen sink
  • changed the toilet plumbing; it's copper instead of flex line
  • plumbed for the bathroom sink as well as for a mop sink, where we had the shower drawn on the sketch
  • not shaped for a shower, not sure of their intention; there's a drain and hot and cold in that corner for however we want to make use of it
  • electrical
  • 440 panel
  • 3-phase panel is up, transformer is where it's going to be
  • main panels are on the walls
  • have trunk of cable coming out of one to transformer
  • panels are not where we'd negotiated; will need to update the cable length spreadsheet
  • velzy won't be on, but we're going to need to figure out what we're going to do for subpanels
  • pictures of labels are in cable pullers, so we know what breakers we can get
  • image we want to still do sub-panel in several spots to make wiring easier
  • will need matching to what they're providing
  • walking around is really awesome; it's going to be huge; shops are going to be massive
  • are they hanging drywall?
  • not until we tell them to or we do it ourselves
  • not hanging until we have electrical finished
  • might want to go in ourselves and hang one side ourselves
  • then it's still accessible
  • blundar doesn't mind going down and pulling cable
  • velzy reached out for quotes for electrical material
  • haven't gotten quotes yet
  • richard's is the cheapest
  • velzy did reach out to them for a quote
  • blundar gave velzy names for electricians for labor help
  • we're going to want to reach out to a few electricians and get quotes to have them do some or all of the work for us
  • blundar: might want to prioritize work; like lights
  • kevin: there are lights, they don't make sense for our floor plan, so we'll need to reconfigure them but they're bright
  • we need electrical material on hand
  • blundar: do we have data wiring; cat5 or cat6
  • drew: i need to work with Kevin this week or next to hammer out the lengths we need; i have some developments
  • i talked to 2701's IT this week; some things have changed
  • blundar: i have 600-800 foot of CAT5E or CAT6 from projects
  • i have a decent number of light switches and outlets; our house is wired at this point, won't use it
  • i'll take inventory and bring it down
  • kevin: we've got a good count of what we'll need, so if you let us know what you have we can use it
  • blundar: i'll try to get it done over the weekend
  • kevin: quotes this week to decide who we're going with
  • blundar: it might make sense to get some supplies ASAP; as soon as walls are up if electric prevents the drywall going up we should get started on it
  • kevin: first thing the subpanels need to go in. velzy's RFQ didn't include subpanels
  • blundar: could start with the bathroom
  • kevin: bathroom circuits are planned out; it's framed and plumbed and ready for electrical
  • blundar: i have 30-100 feet of 12-2 or 14-2 laying around;
  • kevin: that's only so helpful; most of our runs are around 100'
  • bring it in
  • we were planning on doing everything in MC
  • blundar: no
  • kevin: we'll pass
  • recepticles and switches we can make use of
  • kevin: landlord is covering wall build out
  • blundar: what's his poison?
  • kevin: rent checks
  • blundar: poison never hurts
  • kevin: he wants to hang out when we have a party
  • lisa: invite him when we have our open party
  • kevin: shower drain?
  • plumber quoted $2500 to bore through the floor and have a shower drain
  • didn't budget that
  • can be added later
  • i think we should do it later
  • schwinn: there's a shower on the first floor
  • blundar: that's kind of a bonus; and having access on the first floor
  • schwinn: $2500 is almost the whole kitchen budget
  • to throw a hole in the floor
  • drew: we can keep it clear and add it later
  • kevin: can put a mop sink in and pull it out later
  • schwinn: is there going to be a mop sink outside?
  • kevin: a mess sink; like a utility sink
  • schwinn: i'm cold on it
  • blundar: if we can postpone, that's adequate
  • chris: a 6" diamond drill is $40 a day to rent
  • the drill itself is $150-160 a day
  • if we wanted to fuck around with doing it, for $500 we could drill the hole easily
  • we could do that if we wanted to mess with it
  • doesn't have to happen now
  • tim: punt! punt! punt! punt!
  • kevin: we'll have other things to put up for vote
  • kevin: kitchen?
  • it's ready for stuff to start buying there
  • if you find something to get, that needs to happen now
  • schwinn: my attitude about the urgency of it being open when we open has shifted; it might be a while before we need it
  • blundar: having a refrigeration unit, and sink, and something to generate heat would be nice
  • kevin: we're taking the stove and fridge from here
  • schwinn: it might not be spit-polished by then
  • we'd talked about the kitchen being there on day one
  • i've abandoned that notion
  • i don't know what day 1 actually is
  • kevin: we have to just go with the flow on how this goes
  • schwinn: it's cool that we have other people to do this ourselves
  • we can figure out how to do the rest safely on our own terms
  • kevin: i'm still worried about the electrical in that respect
  • schwinn: yeah, but you're not going to be thinking about the walls
  • you were really strung out 2 months ago about who's doing what when
  • now it's answered itself
  • burdick: i like that we can keep social distancing in our new space; functional work space
  • chris: one thing i'm looking at is that the more outside and fresh air the better
  • i'm pushing to basically not open for customers indoors since we own a parking lot and patio
  • the more that we can open windows, the better
  • the less that we're recycling through HVAC, the better
  • dust collection blowing out the side of the building; and ventilation doing that would probably be an ASAP priority
  • schwinn: i'll look into windows
  • kevin: 2701 will install windows
  • drew: we had a chat with 2701's it person (velzy and drew)
  • they are prepared to provide internet, firewall, and wireless, and an ethernet handoff to anything we want
  • my BOM got shorter by not needing to buy a router
  • he's going to allow incoming VPN, azure connections, etc.
  • he uses new access points; he'll be covering the space with wireless APs
  • he's going to give each tenant a vlan and independent firewall rules
  • thanks to some of us lifting some of our infrastructure into the cloud, we can bring that in easily
  • chris: what's the bandwidth coming into the building?
  • drew: it's through CBTS; it's not fioptics
  • metro ethernet
  • kevin: what do we want to do ourselves?
  • what are we taking over to the building?
  • blundar and kevin bringing big table over and leaving blundar's truck there
  • lisa: if you take a table, take 2 chairs or stools or something?
  • schwinn: i second that
  • schwinn: my agenda doesn't interfere; i'm going to clean windows and build sound baffles which hang from the ceiling
  • chris: speaking of the big tables;
  • is that cart still there with all the chairs? we can take that cart and one or two tables from the lounge
  • kevin: i'm also interested in taking a couch and recliner for the new lounge
  • we can start building out a comofy spot
  • schwinn: when will we have access to wifi?
  • drew: he'll let me know when they come in; we'd have an ethernet handoff for our switches and APs
  • schwinn: my work does not care if i cowork; my work from home brings a lot of liberty; as soon as i have my laptop set up there i can work from there
  • drew: i'll have him add a configuration for us and pass that along
  • jill: i can help cleaning windows
  • schwinn: there's like 18 of them
  • jill: since i'm not doing school, i can't stand being in the house all day
  • schwinn: i'll take the screens out for pressure washing
  • kevin: if you have a list of things to move over post it in slack
  • wall builders won't be doing any more work until tuesday
  • drew: can we get together to set up for ethernet runs?
  • schwinn: sounds like we're moving the hive
  • blundar: it's real!
  • drew: i'll have to give you locations and switch stacks and drops
  • kevin: that's w

hat i did with the sub panels for the electric