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*Bathroom/kitchen Framed
 
*Bathroom/kitchen Framed
 
*Landlord is covering wall build labor to compensate for delays
 
*Landlord is covering wall build labor to compensate for delays
*The shower drain will cost about $2500 as it needs to core drill through to the floor below. There is a shower on the first floor that we can use. Should we have the drain installed or use the shower on the 1st?  
+
*Shower drain
*
+
** Would cost about $2500 as it needs to core drill through to the floor below.
 +
** There is a shower on the first floor that we can use
 +
** Should we have the drain installed or use the shower on the 1st?
  
 
===What's Next?===
 
===What's Next?===
  
*Need to take our tools over:
+
*Need to take our tools over?
**Hammers
 
**Vice grip pliers/clamps
 
**drills with screw driving bits
 
**Tin snips
 
**Razor Blades/box cutters
 
**straight edges
 
**levels
 
**plumb-bob
 
**chalk line
 
**sawhorses
 
**ladders/scaffolding
 
**Hammer drill and drill and driver for tapcons
 
  
 
*What work do we want to do ourselves?
 
*What work do we want to do ourselves?
  
 
==Minutes==
 
==Minutes==
 +
 +
* new pictures look amazing
 +
* ​
 +
* yesterday a whole bunch more walls went up
 +
* 60-80% framed
 +
* everything is plumbed
 +
* wash sink stubs, hot and cold water, drain and everything for the wash sink
 +
* craft area, too
 +
* dishwasher, kitchen sink
 +
* changed the toilet plumbing; it's copper instead of flex line
 +
* plumbed for the bathroom sink as well as for a mop sink, where we had the shower drawn on the sketch
 +
* not shaped for a shower, not sure of their intention; there's a drain and hot and cold in that corner for however we want to make use of it
 +
* ​
 +
* electrical
 +
* 440 panel
 +
* 3-phase panel is up, transformer is where it's going to be
 +
* main panels are on the walls
 +
* have trunk of cable coming out of one to transformer
 +
* panels are not where we'd negotiated; will need to update the cable length spreadsheet
 +
* velzy won't be on, but we're going to need to figure out what we're going to do for subpanels
 +
* pictures of labels are in cable pullers, so we know what breakers we can get
 +
* image we want to still do sub-panel in several spots to make wiring easier
 +
* will need matching to what they're providing
 +
* ​
 +
* walking around is really awesome; it's going to be huge; shops are going to be massive
 +
* ​
 +
* are they hanging drywall?
 +
* not until we tell them to or we do it ourselves
 +
* not hanging until we have electrical finished
 +
* might want to go in ourselves and hang one side ourselves
 +
* then it's still accessible
 +
* ​
 +
* blundar doesn't mind going down and pulling cable
 +
* velzy reached out for quotes for electrical material
 +
* haven't gotten quotes yet
 +
* richard's is the cheapest
 +
* velzy did reach out to them for a quote
 +
* blundar gave velzy names for electricians for labor help
 +
* ​
 +
* we're going to want to reach out to a few electricians and get quotes to have them do some or all of the work for us
 +
* blundar: might want to prioritize work; like lights
 +
* kevin: there are lights, they don't make sense for our floor plan, so we'll need to reconfigure them but they're bright
 +
* ​
 +
* we need electrical material on hand
 +
* ​
 +
* blundar: do we have data wiring; cat5 or cat6
 +
* drew: i need to work with Kevin this week or next to hammer out the lengths we need; i have some developments
 +
* i talked to 2701's IT this week; some things have changed
 +
* blundar: i have 600-800 foot of CAT5E or CAT6 from projects
 +
* i have a decent number of light switches and outlets; our house is wired at this point, won't use it
 +
* i'll take inventory and bring it down
 +
* kevin: we've got a good count of what we'll need, so if you let us know what you have we can use it
 +
* blundar: i'll try to get it done over the weekend
 +
* kevin: quotes this week to decide who we're going with
 +
* blundar: it might make sense to get some supplies ASAP; as soon as walls are up if electric prevents the drywall going up we should get started on it
 +
* kevin: first thing the subpanels need to go in. velzy's RFQ didn't include subpanels
 +
* blundar: could start with the bathroom
 +
* kevin: bathroom circuits are planned out; it's framed and plumbed and ready for electrical
 +
* blundar: i have 30-100 feet of 12-2 or 14-2 laying around;
 +
* kevin: that's only so helpful; most of our runs are around 100'
 +
* bring it in
 +
* we were planning on doing everything in MC
 +
* blundar: no
 +
* kevin: we'll pass
 +
* recepticles and switches we can make use of
 +
* ​
 +
* kevin: landlord is covering wall build out
 +
* blundar: what's his poison?
 +
* kevin: rent checks
 +
* blundar: poison never hurts
 +
* kevin: he wants to hang out when we have a party
 +
* lisa: invite him when we have our open party
 +
* ​
 +
* kevin: shower drain?
 +
* plumber quoted $2500 to bore through the floor and have a shower drain
 +
* didn't budget that
 +
* can be added later
 +
* i think we should do it later
 +
* schwinn: there's a shower on the first floor
 +
* blundar: that's kind of a bonus; and having access on the first floor
 +
* schwinn: $2500 is almost the whole kitchen budget
 +
* to throw a hole in the floor
 +
* drew: we can keep it clear and add it later
 +
* kevin: can put a mop sink in and pull it out later
 +
* schwinn: is there going to be a mop sink outside?
 +
* kevin: a mess sink; like a utility sink
 +
* schwinn: i'm cold on it
 +
* blundar: if we can postpone, that's adequate
 +
* chris: a 6" diamond drill is $40 a day to rent
 +
* the drill itself is $150-160 a day
 +
* if we wanted to fuck around with doing it, for $500 we could drill the hole easily
 +
* we could do that if we wanted to mess with it
 +
* doesn't have to happen now
 +
* tim: punt! punt! punt! punt!
 +
* ​
 +
* kevin: we'll have other things to put up for vote
 +
* ​
 +
* kevin: kitchen?
 +
* it's ready for stuff to start buying there
 +
* if you find something to get, that needs to happen now
 +
* schwinn: my attitude about the urgency of it being open when we open has shifted; it might be a while before we need it
 +
* blundar: having a refrigeration unit, and sink, and something to generate heat would be nice
 +
* ​
 +
* kevin: we're taking the stove and fridge from here
 +
* schwinn: it might not be spit-polished by then
 +
* we'd talked about the kitchen being there on day one
 +
* i've abandoned that notion
 +
* i don't know what day 1 actually is
 +
* ​
 +
* kevin: we have to just go with the flow on how this goes
 +
* schwinn: it's cool that we have other people to do this ourselves
 +
* we can figure out how to do the rest safely on our own terms
 +
* ​
 +
* kevin: i'm still worried about the electrical in that respect
 +
* schwinn: yeah, but you're not going to be thinking about the walls
 +
* you were really strung out 2 months ago about who's doing what when
 +
* now it's answered itself
 +
* ​
 +
* burdick: i like that we can keep social distancing in our new space; functional work space
 +
* chris: one thing i'm looking at is that the more outside and fresh air the better
 +
* i'm pushing to basically not open for customers indoors since we own a parking lot and patio
 +
* the more that we can open windows, the better
 +
* the less that we're recycling through HVAC, the better
 +
* ​
 +
* dust collection blowing out the side of the building; and ventilation doing that would probably be an ASAP priority
 +
* ​
 +
* schwinn: i'll look into windows
 +
* kevin: 2701 will install windows
 +
* ​
 +
* drew: we had a chat with 2701's it person (velzy and drew)
 +
* they are prepared to provide internet, firewall, and wireless, and an ethernet handoff to anything we want
 +
* my BOM got shorter by not needing to buy a router
 +
* he's going to allow incoming VPN, azure connections, etc.
 +
* ​
 +
* he uses new access points; he'll be covering the space with wireless APs
 +
* he's going to give each tenant a vlan and independent firewall rules
 +
* thanks to some of us lifting some of our infrastructure into the cloud, we can bring that in easily
 +
* ​
 +
* chris: what's the bandwidth coming into the building?
 +
* drew: it's through CBTS; it's not fioptics
 +
* metro ethernet
 +
* ​
 +
* kevin: what do we want to do ourselves?
 +
* what are we taking over to the building?
 +
* ​
 +
* blundar and kevin bringing big table over and leaving blundar's truck there
 +
* lisa: if you take a table, take 2 chairs or stools or something?
 +
* schwinn: i second that
 +
* ​
 +
* schwinn: my agenda doesn't interfere; i'm going to clean windows and build sound baffles which hang from the ceiling
 +
* chris: speaking of the big tables;
 +
* is that cart still there with all the chairs? we can take that cart and one or two tables from the lounge
 +
* ​
 +
* kevin: i'm also interested in taking a couch and recliner for the new lounge
 +
* we can start building out a comofy spot
 +
* ​
 +
* schwinn: when will we have access to wifi?
 +
* drew: he'll let me know when they come in; we'd have an ethernet handoff for our switches and APs
 +
* ​
 +
* schwinn: my work does not care if i cowork; my work from home brings a lot of liberty; as soon as i have my laptop set up there i can work from there
 +
* drew: i'll have him add a configuration for us and pass that along
 +
* ​
 +
* jill: i can help cleaning windows
 +
* schwinn: there's like 18 of them
 +
* jill: since i'm not doing school, i can't stand being in the house all day
 +
* schwinn: i'll take the screens out for pressure washing
 +
* ​
 +
* kevin: if you have a list of things to move over post it in slack
 +
* wall builders  won't be doing any more work until tuesday
 +
* ​
 +
* drew: can we get together to set up for ethernet runs?
 +
* ​
 +
* schwinn: sounds like we're moving the hive
 +
* blundar: it's real!
 +
* ​
 +
* drew: i'll have to give you locations and switch stacks and drops
 +
* kevin: that's what i did with the sub panels for the electric

Latest revision as of 08:47, 22 May 2020

Move Meetings
Previous: May 14th, 2020 Meeting Procedure Next: May 28th, 2020

Agenda

Build Progress

  • Material Delivered
  • Bathroom/kitchen Framed
  • Landlord is covering wall build labor to compensate for delays
  • Shower drain
    • Would cost about $2500 as it needs to core drill through to the floor below.
    • There is a shower on the first floor that we can use
    • Should we have the drain installed or use the shower on the 1st?

What's Next?

  • Need to take our tools over?
  • What work do we want to do ourselves?

Minutes

  • new pictures look amazing
  • yesterday a whole bunch more walls went up
  • 60-80% framed
  • everything is plumbed
  • wash sink stubs, hot and cold water, drain and everything for the wash sink
  • craft area, too
  • dishwasher, kitchen sink
  • changed the toilet plumbing; it's copper instead of flex line
  • plumbed for the bathroom sink as well as for a mop sink, where we had the shower drawn on the sketch
  • not shaped for a shower, not sure of their intention; there's a drain and hot and cold in that corner for however we want to make use of it
  • electrical
  • 440 panel
  • 3-phase panel is up, transformer is where it's going to be
  • main panels are on the walls
  • have trunk of cable coming out of one to transformer
  • panels are not where we'd negotiated; will need to update the cable length spreadsheet
  • velzy won't be on, but we're going to need to figure out what we're going to do for subpanels
  • pictures of labels are in cable pullers, so we know what breakers we can get
  • image we want to still do sub-panel in several spots to make wiring easier
  • will need matching to what they're providing
  • walking around is really awesome; it's going to be huge; shops are going to be massive
  • are they hanging drywall?
  • not until we tell them to or we do it ourselves
  • not hanging until we have electrical finished
  • might want to go in ourselves and hang one side ourselves
  • then it's still accessible
  • blundar doesn't mind going down and pulling cable
  • velzy reached out for quotes for electrical material
  • haven't gotten quotes yet
  • richard's is the cheapest
  • velzy did reach out to them for a quote
  • blundar gave velzy names for electricians for labor help
  • we're going to want to reach out to a few electricians and get quotes to have them do some or all of the work for us
  • blundar: might want to prioritize work; like lights
  • kevin: there are lights, they don't make sense for our floor plan, so we'll need to reconfigure them but they're bright
  • we need electrical material on hand
  • blundar: do we have data wiring; cat5 or cat6
  • drew: i need to work with Kevin this week or next to hammer out the lengths we need; i have some developments
  • i talked to 2701's IT this week; some things have changed
  • blundar: i have 600-800 foot of CAT5E or CAT6 from projects
  • i have a decent number of light switches and outlets; our house is wired at this point, won't use it
  • i'll take inventory and bring it down
  • kevin: we've got a good count of what we'll need, so if you let us know what you have we can use it
  • blundar: i'll try to get it done over the weekend
  • kevin: quotes this week to decide who we're going with
  • blundar: it might make sense to get some supplies ASAP; as soon as walls are up if electric prevents the drywall going up we should get started on it
  • kevin: first thing the subpanels need to go in. velzy's RFQ didn't include subpanels
  • blundar: could start with the bathroom
  • kevin: bathroom circuits are planned out; it's framed and plumbed and ready for electrical
  • blundar: i have 30-100 feet of 12-2 or 14-2 laying around;
  • kevin: that's only so helpful; most of our runs are around 100'
  • bring it in
  • we were planning on doing everything in MC
  • blundar: no
  • kevin: we'll pass
  • recepticles and switches we can make use of
  • kevin: landlord is covering wall build out
  • blundar: what's his poison?
  • kevin: rent checks
  • blundar: poison never hurts
  • kevin: he wants to hang out when we have a party
  • lisa: invite him when we have our open party
  • kevin: shower drain?
  • plumber quoted $2500 to bore through the floor and have a shower drain
  • didn't budget that
  • can be added later
  • i think we should do it later
  • schwinn: there's a shower on the first floor
  • blundar: that's kind of a bonus; and having access on the first floor
  • schwinn: $2500 is almost the whole kitchen budget
  • to throw a hole in the floor
  • drew: we can keep it clear and add it later
  • kevin: can put a mop sink in and pull it out later
  • schwinn: is there going to be a mop sink outside?
  • kevin: a mess sink; like a utility sink
  • schwinn: i'm cold on it
  • blundar: if we can postpone, that's adequate
  • chris: a 6" diamond drill is $40 a day to rent
  • the drill itself is $150-160 a day
  • if we wanted to fuck around with doing it, for $500 we could drill the hole easily
  • we could do that if we wanted to mess with it
  • doesn't have to happen now
  • tim: punt! punt! punt! punt!
  • kevin: we'll have other things to put up for vote
  • kevin: kitchen?
  • it's ready for stuff to start buying there
  • if you find something to get, that needs to happen now
  • schwinn: my attitude about the urgency of it being open when we open has shifted; it might be a while before we need it
  • blundar: having a refrigeration unit, and sink, and something to generate heat would be nice
  • kevin: we're taking the stove and fridge from here
  • schwinn: it might not be spit-polished by then
  • we'd talked about the kitchen being there on day one
  • i've abandoned that notion
  • i don't know what day 1 actually is
  • kevin: we have to just go with the flow on how this goes
  • schwinn: it's cool that we have other people to do this ourselves
  • we can figure out how to do the rest safely on our own terms
  • kevin: i'm still worried about the electrical in that respect
  • schwinn: yeah, but you're not going to be thinking about the walls
  • you were really strung out 2 months ago about who's doing what when
  • now it's answered itself
  • burdick: i like that we can keep social distancing in our new space; functional work space
  • chris: one thing i'm looking at is that the more outside and fresh air the better
  • i'm pushing to basically not open for customers indoors since we own a parking lot and patio
  • the more that we can open windows, the better
  • the less that we're recycling through HVAC, the better
  • dust collection blowing out the side of the building; and ventilation doing that would probably be an ASAP priority
  • schwinn: i'll look into windows
  • kevin: 2701 will install windows
  • drew: we had a chat with 2701's it person (velzy and drew)
  • they are prepared to provide internet, firewall, and wireless, and an ethernet handoff to anything we want
  • my BOM got shorter by not needing to buy a router
  • he's going to allow incoming VPN, azure connections, etc.
  • he uses new access points; he'll be covering the space with wireless APs
  • he's going to give each tenant a vlan and independent firewall rules
  • thanks to some of us lifting some of our infrastructure into the cloud, we can bring that in easily
  • chris: what's the bandwidth coming into the building?
  • drew: it's through CBTS; it's not fioptics
  • metro ethernet
  • kevin: what do we want to do ourselves?
  • what are we taking over to the building?
  • blundar and kevin bringing big table over and leaving blundar's truck there
  • lisa: if you take a table, take 2 chairs or stools or something?
  • schwinn: i second that
  • schwinn: my agenda doesn't interfere; i'm going to clean windows and build sound baffles which hang from the ceiling
  • chris: speaking of the big tables;
  • is that cart still there with all the chairs? we can take that cart and one or two tables from the lounge
  • kevin: i'm also interested in taking a couch and recliner for the new lounge
  • we can start building out a comofy spot
  • schwinn: when will we have access to wifi?
  • drew: he'll let me know when they come in; we'd have an ethernet handoff for our switches and APs
  • schwinn: my work does not care if i cowork; my work from home brings a lot of liberty; as soon as i have my laptop set up there i can work from there
  • drew: i'll have him add a configuration for us and pass that along
  • jill: i can help cleaning windows
  • schwinn: there's like 18 of them
  • jill: since i'm not doing school, i can't stand being in the house all day
  • schwinn: i'll take the screens out for pressure washing
  • kevin: if you have a list of things to move over post it in slack
  • wall builders won't be doing any more work until tuesday
  • drew: can we get together to set up for ethernet runs?
  • schwinn: sounds like we're moving the hive
  • blundar: it's real!
  • drew: i'll have to give you locations and switch stacks and drops
  • kevin: that's what i did with the sub panels for the electric