June 2, 2009

Meetings
Previous Meeting: May 23, 2009	Meeting Procedure	Next Meeting: June 9, 2009

Time: 7:00 PM

Space: Taza (in the loft), map

Agenda

• I. Paper Pushers
  • A. are we incorporated now?
  • B. can we get a bank account so we can collect $?
  • C. Elect a treasurer or finance committee?
• II. Meatspacers
  • A. KOIPound
  • B. Any other places visited?
  • C. Organized filed trips?
• III. Scroungers / Scavengers
• IV. Tool/Skillmongers Report
  • Decide how to list currently working on projects. Whos is running them and how to get involved.
• V. Propagandists
  • Got logos?
• IV. Communications Team
  • A. we have some domains, courtesy Craig
  • B. what tools do we want to use for self hosting? mailman?, MediaWiki? etc...
  • C. is anyone using efnet.org?
  • D. our number of sites is growing pretty quickly. may comms team needs to have its own sub-meeeting?
  • E. Alternate ways to meet remotely, DimDim, VoIP, etc.
  • F. Public vs. Private infrastructure
• IIV. Tuesday Pattern
  • A. meeting regularity
  • B. auxiliary meetings
  • C. Modifying the Public Hive13 Events calendar (tweet updates)
• IIIV. Services
  • List services (current and possible future)
  • Determine which should be public and which to be private (members only)
  • Ex: IRC #hive13 (public) internal silc server for projects (members only), Mailing list (public) Code Repository (private), etc.

Attendees

• DaveM
• ChrisA
• PaulV
• Craig
• John
• Nauseaboy
• Mike
• avishaan
• remy
• addison
• JasonBailey
• matt

Minutes

Chit-Chat (as people are showing up)

• John's employer may have some leads on some spaces
• to what extent do we really need a space to be doing cool stuff
• once we have a bank account we might be able to establish what our financial situation is, how much money are we gonna have, should we collect 3 months rent in advance
• chrisA talking about some people he met at a con that kinda did this thing where they started out just going garage to garage
• khac is not a bad place; I (dave) went to the screenprinting thing and the people were cool
• talking about profile pages / project pages
• dimdim
• craig talking about GSites, user limits
• http://webmeeting.dimdim.com/portal/JoinForm.action?meetingRoomName=hive13

Legal Entity

• JasonBailey: we are not a legal entity since we need a board of directors at least two people
• how are we going to choose a board. presumably some form of election
• jason reviewing 501c3 vs. 501c7...
• chrisA; we can always file for whatever later if we become "charitable", but it would be nice to have that legal status ASAP.
• collecting money. who do we give it to, etc, etc.
• dave: boilerplate bylaws? addison: there are some on hackerspaces.org

Election?

• willing to be on the board: chris, dave, jason, mike, craig, matt, maybe more...
• post online and let people nominate selves, use moderator to vote on people
• take top N vote-getters. we need 3 legally.
• addison: we should go for 4 at least so in case someone drops off
• people on the board can sign checks

Space Hunting

• should we have some organized field trips
• how about having a group craigslist trolling sessions?
• anyone have garages they are willing to let people hang out in
• probably need at least 1000-15000 sq ft
• definitely need some tiered membership probably
• don't want to end up with only 3 people paying all the $$$
• key-holders vs. non-key-holders
• be wary of creating onerous requirements like having to contribute charitable time to maintain 501c3 status or stuff like that
• different people will be needing different space requirements
• we can make the space work whatever it is
• jason: buying is not a smart idea
• matt: having some back up $ if people drop out or lose job
• jason: as a non-profit we have to get $ from membership dues

KOI Pound

• good to be in contact with them, learn from them; how did they find their space, how are they organized?
• don't want to be contingent on their success though; want to be independent
• it might be a place to hang out sometimes and get stuff done.

Sub-groups coordination

• Gsites has groups like meatspacers@hive13.org
• use sites to make sub- mailing-lists
• so "work groups" can get stuff done independently
• what groups should be a sub-group: meatspacers, comms, propagandists?

Propaganda

• anybody made logos... we haven't seen any yet.
• hive theme is convenient

Comms

• IRC is useful. chat.freenode.net #hive13
• jason: cgi-irc on the website?
• dimdim: need to explore more
• jason/nausea can set up an 800 number for the next meeting
• wiki: most people like MediaWiki, let's get that set up wiki.hive13.org
• public vs. private tabled: let's talk about it some more on irc
• craig: twitter stuff... would like to get more use out of that...
  • jason: announce ourselves on a follow friday

Meetings

• regularity. people seem ok with the every week on tuesday thing.
• addison: maybe there should a primary meeting per month. like first one of the month.
• jason: yeah, let's do that. first meeting of the month is the more primary meeting
• craig: there is nifty calendaring stuff on GApps

Social Meetup

• we should have a happy hour

Diplomacy

• we should have a maker congress / social thingy
• koiburners, league of artisans, bunk, etc.

Anything else? / New guys

• pvince: into programming. got an arduino
• avishaan: more of a builder
• lock picking stuff.... maybe we could have a class
• remy: down for whatever

Next Actions

• do election stuff online: let people nominate themselves, vote
• set up some sub-groups on the Gsites: meatspacers,
• figure out the voice conferencing for next week
• mediawiki set up in progress as we speak...
• happy hour!
• become friends with other makers/hackers/artists/etc
• craig will also set up a picasa album for logo

Due Dates

• we didn't really talk about this, but let's attempt to put some times on this stuff
• addison: let's get the legal stuff done in two weeks. Dave: i agree. asap!